Irish Traditional Music Tune Index
Tune ID# 358 (College Groves)

RhythmBars8-bar phrase structureMode
Reel40AABCDD Mixolydian
Transcription of first 2 bars of College Groves
 about these two bars

These two bars are the start of my transcription of how this tune was played – the first time through – on the recording MGm (details in the Discography below).

Where do you get the tune titles?
Titles given to this tune in the sources listed below (plus notes of mine about this tune):
College Groves / The College Grove / Garrán an Choláiste / Doirí an Choláiste / The Cottage Groves / The New Demesne / The New Domain / Miss Corbett / Miss Corbett's / Miss Corbett's Reel / The Green Jacket / The Milestone / The Millstone / Millstone / Ríl an Chabháin / The Cavan Reel / The Connacht Reel / The Connacht / The Old Locks and Quays of Galway / Old locks and quays of Galway / An Cailín Fionn / Whiskey in the Jar / Whiskey in the Jug (1st in set Drag Her Round the Road on Drv 4) (various settings of various lengths, but usually 4 distinct parts) (compare distantly Colonel Fraser #360)
What do the "track#tune" codes mean?

cd Discography

Here are all recordings of this tune considering only the indexed recordings. I have discovered by careful listening that these sources are in fact musically the same tune, regardless of the tune titles they use, key changes, retuning, etc. They are listed in order of when they were recorded.

Year
Recorded		 Track
#Tune		 [Album code] Artist. Title. Primary musicians (instruments). Album details
and contents
19286#1[WW 2] various. The Wheels of the World. Early Irish-American Music. Classic Recordings from the 1920s and 1930s. Vol. 2. View album details
~195810#1[KCB 1] The Kilfenora Ceili Band. The Fabulous Kilfenora Ceili Band. P.J. Lynch (fiddle), Gus Tierney (fiddle), Jim McCormack (flute), Gerry Lynch (accordion), P. Mullins, T. Eustace, P. Madigan, Kitty Linnane (piano), G. O'Loughlin (drums).View album details
19701.26#1[MGm] Michael Gorman. The Sligo Champion. The Fiddle Music of County Sligo. Michael Gorman (fiddle, vocals).View album details
~19738#1[JB 1] Joe Burke with Charlie Lennon. Traditional Music of Ireland. Joe Burke (accordion), with Charlie Lennon (piano).View album details
~19747#1[SE 3] Séamus Ennis. The Wandering Minstrel. Seamus Ennis (pipes).View album details
~197513#2[PCt] Paddy Carty. Traditional Irish Music. Paddy Carty (flute).View album details
~19788(0:54)#2[KB Cap] Kevin Burke. If the Cap Fits. Kevin Burke (fiddle).View album details
198312#2[FG 2] Frankie Gavin. Croch Suas É. Up and Away. Frankie Gavin (flute, fiddle, whistle, accordion).View album details
~19963#2[KR] Kevin Rowsome. The Rowsome Tradition. Kevin Rowsome (pipes).View album details
19972.3#1[Drv 4] Dervish. Live in Palma. Cathy Jordan (vocals), Liam Kelly (flute), Shane McAleer (fiddle), Shane Mitchell (accordion), Brian McDonagh (mandola, guitar), Micheal Holmes (bouzouki).View album details
19984#1[KB IC] Kevin Burke. In Concert. Kevin Burke (fiddle).View album details
20005#3[MOR] Mícheál Ó Raghallaigh. The Nervous Man. Traditional Irish Music on Concertina. Mícheál Ó Raghallaigh (concertina).View album details

Bibliography

Here are all transcriptions of this tune under any title whatsoever – considering only the indexed books – listed in chronological order. I have discovered by careful comparison that these are very similar to this tune as played on the recordings listed above.

As tune #1208 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. [available]
As tune #1209 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. [available]
As tune #1490 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. [available]
As tune #484 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. [available]
As tune #485 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. [available]
As tune #714 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. [available]
As tune #265 in [CRE 2] Breandán Breathnach. Ceol Rince na hÉireann 2.
On page 56 of [RM] Randy Miller and Jack Perron. Irish Traditional Fiddle Music. [available]
As tune #168 in [CRE 2] Breandán Breathnach. Ceol Rince na hÉireann 2.
On page 149 of [Krsn] Miles Krassen. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. New and Revised. [available]
On page 97 of [Krsn] Miles Krassen. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. New and Revised. [available]
On page 71 of [FF] David Brody. The Fiddler's Fakebook. [available]
As tune #42 in [DM 3] Dave Mallinson. 100 Evergreen Irish Session Tunes. [available]
As reel #39 in [Cobb] Dan Cobb. Cobb's Music of Ireland. [available]
As reel #107 in [JKg 3] Josephine Keegan. A Drop in the Ocean. Traditional Irish Tunes Collected by Josephine Keegan. [available]

If you are considering using the above transcriptions to help you learn this tune, I invite you to check these practical Tips for Learning Irish Traditional Music. See also: So why do you bother indexing books and abc?

Year of the oldest source for this tune, considering the recordings and transcriptions listed above (note that I concentrate on sources after 1900): 1903
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