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Tune ID#358 (College Groves)

Transcription of first 2 bars of College Groves about these two bars
These two bars were transcribed by me from how this tune was played – the first time through – on the recording MGm (details in the Discography below).
Basic musical information on this tune.
Rhythm ?Bars8-bar phrase structureMode ?
Reel40AABCDD Mixolydian
Titles ? given to this tune in the sources listed below (plus notes of mine about this tune):
College Groves / The College Grove / Garrán an Choláiste / Doirí an Choláiste / The Cottage Groves / Cottage Groves / The New Demesne / The New Domain / Miss Corbett / Miss Corbett's / Miss Corbett's Reel / The Green Jacket / The Millstone / Millstone / The Milestone / Ríl an Chabháin / The Cavan Reel / The Connacht Reel / The Connacht / The Old Locks and Quays of Galway / Old locks and quays of Galway / An Cailín Fionn / Whiskey in the Jar / Whiskey in the Jug (1st in set Drag Her Round the Road on Drv 3 and Drv 4) (various settings of various lengths, but usually 4 distinct parts; also in D Major or in C Mixolydian) (compare distantly Colonel Fraser #360)

cd Discography

Here are all recordings of this tune considering only the indexed recordings. I have discovered by careful listening that these sources are in fact musically the same tune, regardless of the tune titles they use, key changes, retuning, etc.

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Year
Recorded
Track
#Tune?
[Album code] Artist. Title. Performers (instruments). Go to album
192616#2
[IFM] Past Masters of Irish Fiddle Music. Jim Morrison (fiddle).
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19282.14#1
[PJConlon] Peter J. Conlon. The Genius of Peter Conlon. 78 RPM Recordings from 1917-1929. Peter J. Conlon (melodeon). For this tune: with Walter Lally (banjo).
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19286#1
[WW 2] The Wheels of the World. Early Irish-American Music. Classic Recordings from the 1920s and 1930s. Vol. 2. Peter Conlon (accordion).
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193321#1
[OTPR] Oldtime Records. Vol. 3. Piping Rarities. Liam Walsh (pipes).
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~195810#1
[KCB 1] The Kilfenora Ceili Band. The Fabulous Kilfenora Ceili Band. P.J. Lynch (fiddle), Gus Tierney (fiddle), Jim McCormack (flute), Gerry Lynch (accordion), P. Mullins, T. Eustace, P. Madigan, Kitty Linnane (piano), G. O'Loughlin (drums).
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~19678#1
[PKlly] Patrick Kelly. Patrick Kelly From Cree. Fiddle Music. Patrick Kelly (fiddle).
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19701.26#1
[MGm] Michael Gorman. The Sligo Champion. The Fiddle Music of County Sligo. Michael Gorman (fiddle, vocals). For this tune: a nephew of Michael Gorman's named Michael Gorman (fiddle).
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19736#1
[KB SD] Kevin Burke. Sweeney's Dream. Fiddle Tunes from County Sligo, Ireland. Kevin Burke (fiddle).
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~19738#1
[JB 2] Joe Burke with Charlie Lennon. Traditional Music of Ireland. Joe Burke (accordion), with Charlie Lennon (piano).
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~19747#1
[SE 3] Séamus Ennis. The Wandering Minstrel. Seamus Ennis (pipes). For this tune: (C# pipes).
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~197513#2
[PCt] Paddy Carty. Traditional Irish Music. Paddy Carty (flute).
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~197712#2
[AM] Andy McGann and Paul Brady. It's A Hard Road to Travel. Andy McGann (fiddle), Paul Brady (guitar).
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~19788#2 (0:54)
[KB Cap] Kevin Burke. If the Cap Fits. Kevin Burke (fiddle).
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~19796#2
[MOC 1] Martin O'Connor. The Connachtman's Rambles. Martin O'Connor (accordion).
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198312#2
[FG 2] Frankie Gavin. Croch Suas É. Up and Away. Frankie Gavin (flute, fiddle, whistle, accordion). For this tune: (fiddles, flute).
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19858#1
[TMacMn 2] Tony Mac Mahon. Mac Mahon from Clare. Tony Mac Mahon (accordion). For this tune: with James Kelly (fiddle).
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~19967#1
[Drv 3] Dervish. At the End of the Day. Cathy Jordan (vocals, bodhrán, bones), Shane Mc Aleer (fiddle), Liam Kelly (flute, whistle, vocals), Shane Mitchell (accordion), Michael Holmes (bouzouki), Brian McDonagh (mandola, bassola, mandolin, guitar). For this tune: Shane McAleer (fiddle).
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~19963#2
[KR] Kevin Rowsome. The Rowsome Tradition. Kevin Rowsome (pipes). For this tune: (D pipes).
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19972.3#1
[Drv 4] Dervish. Live in Palma. Cathy Jordan (vocals), Liam Kelly (flute), Shane McAleer (fiddle), Shane Mitchell (accordion), Brian McDonagh (mandola, guitar), Micheal Holmes (bouzouki). For this tune: Shane McAleer (fiddle).
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19984#1
[KB IC] Kevin Burke. In Concert. Kevin Burke (fiddle).
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20005#3
[MOR 1] Mícheál Ó Raghallaigh. The Nervous Man. Traditional Irish Music on Concertina. Mícheál Ó Raghallaigh (concertina).
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~20005#3
[TMacMn 2] Tony Mac Mahon. Mac Mahon from Clare. Tony Mac Mahon (accordion).
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~20036#1
[TapRT] The Tap Room Trio. The Tap Room Trio. Harry Bradley (flute, piccolo), Jesse Smith (fiddle), John Blake (guitar, piano, flute). For this tune: Jesse Smith (fiddle).
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~20087#2
[Fngl 1] Fingal. Fingal. James Keane (accordion), Randal Bays (fiddle), Dáithí Sproule (guitar, vocals). For this tune: James Keane (accordion).
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Bibliography

Here are all transcriptions of this tune considering only the indexed books, listed in chronological order. I have discovered by careful comparison that these are very similar to this tune as played on the recordings listed above.

Listing of published transcriptions of this tune.
As tune #1208 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. [available]
As tune #1209 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. [available]
As tune #1490 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. [available]
As tune #484 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. [available]
As tune #485 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. [available]
As tune #714 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. [available]
As tune #265 in [CRE 2] Breandán Breathnach. Ceol Rince na hÉireann 2.
On page 56 of [RM] Randy Miller and Jack Perron. Irish Traditional Fiddle Music. [available]
As tune #168 in [CRE 2] Breandán Breathnach. Ceol Rince na hÉireann 2.
On page 149 of [Krsn] Miles Krassen. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. New and Revised. [available]
On page 97 of [Krsn] Miles Krassen. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. New and Revised. [available]
On page 71 of [FF] David Brody. The Fiddler's Fakebook. [available]
As tune #42 in [DM 3] Dave Mallinson. 100 Evergreen Irish Session Tunes. [available]
As reel #39 in [Cobb] Dan Cobb. Cobb's Music of Ireland. [available]
As reel #107 in [JKg 3] Josephine Keegan. A Drop in the Ocean. Traditional Irish Tunes Collected by Josephine Keegan. [available]

If you are considering using the above transcriptions to help you learn this tune, I invite you to check these practical Tips for Learning Irish Traditional Music. See also: So why do you bother indexing books and abc?

Year of the oldest source for this tune, considering the recordings and transcriptions listed above (note that I concentrate on sources after 1900): 1903