Irish Traditional Music Tune Index
Tune ID#358 (College Groves)
| Rhythm ? | Bars | 8-bar phrase structure | Mode ? |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reel | 40 | AABCD | D Mixolydian |
about these two bars
These two bars are the start of my transcription of how this tune was played – the first time through – on the recording MGm (details in the Discography below).
Titles given to this tune in the sources listed below (plus notes of mine about this tune):
College Groves / The College Grove / Garrán an Choláiste / Doirí an Choláiste / The Cottage Groves / Cottage Groves / The New Demesne / The New Domain / Miss Corbett / Miss Corbett's / Miss Corbett's Reel / The Green Jacket / The Millstone / Millstone / The Milestone / Ríl an Chabháin / The Cavan Reel / The Connacht Reel / The Connacht / The Old Locks and Quays of Galway / Old locks and quays of Galway / An Cailín Fionn / Whiskey in the Jar / Whiskey in the Jug (1st in set Drag Her Round the Road on Drv 4) (various settings of various lengths, but usually 4 distinct parts; also in D Major) (compare distantly Colonel Fraser #360)
Discography
Here are all recordings of this tune considering only the indexed recordings. I have discovered by careful listening that these sources are in fact musically the same tune, regardless of the tune titles they use, key changes, retuning, etc. They are listed in order of when they were recorded.
| Year Recorded |
Track #Tune? |
[Album code] Artist. Title. Primary musicians (instruments). |
|---|---|---|
| 1926 | 16#2 | [IFM] various. Past Masters of Irish Fiddle Music. |
| 1928 | 6#1 | [WW 2] various. The Wheels of the World. Early Irish-American Music. Classic Recordings from the 1920s and 1930s. Vol. 2. |
| ~1958 | 10#1 | [KCB 1] The Kilfenora Ceili Band. The Fabulous Kilfenora Ceili Band. P.J. Lynch (fiddle), Gus Tierney (fiddle), Jim McCormack (flute), Gerry Lynch (accordion), P. Mullins, T. Eustace, P. Madigan, Kitty Linnane (piano), G. O'Loughlin (drums). |
| ~1967 | 8#1 | [PKlly] Patrick Kelly. Patrick Kelly From Cree. Fiddle Music. Patrick Kelly (fiddle). |
| 1970 | 1.26#1 | [MGm] Michael Gorman. The Sligo Champion. The Fiddle Music of County Sligo. Michael Gorman (fiddle, vocals). |
| ~1973 | 8#1 | [JB 1] Joe Burke with Charlie Lennon. Traditional Music of Ireland. Joe Burke (accordion), with Charlie Lennon (piano). |
| ~1974 | 7#1 | [SE 3] Séamus Ennis. The Wandering Minstrel. Seamus Ennis (pipes). |
| ~1975 | 13#2 | [PCt] Paddy Carty. Traditional Irish Music. Paddy Carty (flute). |
| ~1977 | 12#2 | [AM] Andy McGann and Paul Brady. It's A Hard Road to Travel. Andy McGann (fiddle), Paul Brady (guitar). |
| ~1978 | 8(0:54)#2 | [KB Cap] Kevin Burke. If the Cap Fits. Kevin Burke (fiddle). |
| ~1979 | 6#2 | [MOC 1] Martin O'Connor. The Connachtman's Rambles. Martin O'Connor (accordion). |
| 1983 | 12#2 | [FG 2] Frankie Gavin. Croch Suas É. Up and Away. Frankie Gavin (flute, fiddle, whistle, accordion). |
| ~1996 | 3#2 | [KR] Kevin Rowsome. The Rowsome Tradition. Kevin Rowsome (pipes). |
| 1997 | 2.3#1 | [Drv 4] Dervish. Live in Palma. Cathy Jordan (vocals), Liam Kelly (flute), Shane McAleer (fiddle), Shane Mitchell (accordion), Brian McDonagh (mandola, guitar), Micheal Holmes (bouzouki). |
| 1998 | 4#1 | [KB IC] Kevin Burke. In Concert. Kevin Burke (fiddle). |
| 2000 | 5#3 | [MOR] Mícheál Ó Raghallaigh. The Nervous Man. Traditional Irish Music on Concertina. Mícheál Ó Raghallaigh (concertina). |
Bibliography
Here are all transcriptions of this tune under any title whatsoever – considering only the indexed books – listed in chronological order. I have discovered by careful comparison that these are very similar to this tune as played on the recordings listed above.
| As tune #1208 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. |
| As tune #1209 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. |
| As tune #1490 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. |
| As tune #484 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. |
| As tune #485 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. |
| As tune #714 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. |
| As tune #265 in [CRE 2] Breandán Breathnach. Ceol Rince na hÉireann 2. |
| On page 56 of [RM] Randy Miller and Jack Perron. Irish Traditional Fiddle Music. |
| As tune #168 in [CRE 2] Breandán Breathnach. Ceol Rince na hÉireann 2. |
| On page 149 of [Krsn] Miles Krassen. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. New and Revised. |
| On page 97 of [Krsn] Miles Krassen. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. New and Revised. |
| On page 71 of [FF] David Brody. The Fiddler's Fakebook. |
| As tune #42 in [DM 3] Dave Mallinson. 100 Evergreen Irish Session Tunes. |
| As reel #39 in [Cobb] Dan Cobb. Cobb's Music of Ireland. |
| As reel #107 in [JKg 3] Josephine Keegan. A Drop in the Ocean. Traditional Irish Tunes Collected by Josephine Keegan. |
If you are considering using the above transcriptions to help you learn this tune, I invite you to check these practical Tips for Learning Irish Traditional Music. See also: So why do you bother indexing books and abc?
Year of the oldest source for this tune, considering the recordings and transcriptions listed above (note that I concentrate on sources after 1900): 1903