Irish Traditional Music Tune Index
Tune ID#643 (Flogging Reel)
| Rhythm ? | Bars | 8-bar phrase structure | Mode ? |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reel | 24 | ABC | G Major |
about these two bars
These two bars are the start of my transcription of how this tune was played – the first time through – on the recording PT (details in the Discography below).
Titles given to this tune in the sources listed below (plus notes of mine about this tune):
Flogging Reel, The / The Flogging / The Floggin' / Floggin' Reel / The Floggin / Floggan Reel / The Slashing Reel / Ríl an Lasctha / An Lascadh / The Flaggon Reel / The Flaggon / The Flagon / The Flagon Reel / The Humours of Bantry Bay / The Newry Lass (also in D or F, also with some or all parts doubled) (compare The Fife Reel and 1st part with 1st part of Pirrie Wirrie #3326)
Discography
Here are all recordings of this tune considering only the indexed recordings. I have discovered by careful listening that these sources are in fact musically the same tune, regardless of the tune titles they use, key changes, retuning, etc. They are listed in order of when they were recorded.
| Year Recorded |
Track #Tune? |
[Album code] Artist. Title. Primary musicians (instruments). |
|---|---|---|
| 1916 | 9#1 | [JKm] John J. Kimmel. John J. Kimmel. Early Recordings of Irish Traditional Dance Music. John J. Kimmel (accordion). |
| 1919 | 1#3 | [PT] Patsy Touhey. The Piping of Patsy Touhey. Patsy Touhey (pipes). |
| 1919 | 14#3 | [WW 2] various. The Wheels of the World. Early Irish-American Music. Classic Recordings from the 1920s and 1930s. Vol. 2. |
| 1928 | 6#2 | [WW 2] various. The Wheels of the World. Early Irish-American Music. Classic Recordings from the 1920s and 1930s. Vol. 2. |
| 1928 | 6#1 | [BFair] various. Ballinasloe Fair. Early Recordings of Irish Music in America. |
| 1931 | 20#1 | [IFM] various. Past Masters of Irish Fiddle Music. |
| 1938 | 5#3 | [IFM] various. Past Masters of Irish Fiddle Music. |
| ~1953 | 28#1 | [TDMI] various. Traditional Dance Music of Ireland. |
| 1960 | 19#1 | [ECr] Elizabeth Crotty. Concertina Music from West Clare. Elizabeth Crotty (concertina). |
| ~1967 | 12#1 | [WC 1] Willie Clancy. The Minstrel from Clare. Willie Clancy (pipes, whistle, vocals). |
| ~1967 | 2#1 | [PKlly] Patrick Kelly. Patrick Kelly From Cree. Fiddle Music. Patrick Kelly (fiddle). |
| ~1967 | 10#1 | [GP] various. The Gentlemen Pipers. Classic Recordings of Irish Traditional Piping. |
| ~1973 | 8#2 | [JB 1] Joe Burke with Charlie Lennon. Traditional Music of Ireland. Joe Burke (accordion), with Charlie Lennon (piano). |
| ~1974 | 3#2 | [JD 5] John Doherty. The Floating Bow. John Doherty (fiddle). |
| 1975 | 16#1 | [JnKlly] John Kelly. Irish Traditional Concertina and Fiddle Music. John Kelly (concertina, fiddle). |
| ~1977 | 12#2 | [ECst] various. Traditional Irish Music in America. The East Coast. |
| ~1979 | 6#2 | [BMu 1] Brendan Mulvihill, accompanied by Mick Moloney. The Flax in Bloom. Traditional Irish Music. Brendan Mulvihill (fiddle), Mick Moloney (guitar, bouzouki, mandolin). |
| ~1980 | A.6#3 | [Boys 8] Boys of the Lough. Regrouped. Aly Bain (fiddle), Cathal McConnell (flute), Dave Richardson (), Tich Richardson (guitar). |
| ~1987 | 12#4 | [TW] Tannahill Weavers. The Best of the Tannahill Weavers 1979-1989. |
| 1992 | 9#3 | [BMu 2] Brendan Mulvihill, Donna Long. The Morning Dew. Brendan Mulvihill (fiddle), Donna Long (piano). |
| 1993 | 1#2 | [CTL 4] Cherish the Ladies. Out and About. Joanie Madden (flute, whistle, vocals), Mary Coogan (guitar, banjo, bouzouki), Maureen Doherty Macken (accordion, whistle), Winifred Horan (fiddle), Siobhan Egan (fiddle, bodhrán), Cathie Ryan (vocals). |
| ~1993 | 1#1 | [MB 2] Mary Bergin. Feadóga Stáin 2. Mary Bergin (whistle). |
| 1995 | 4#2 | [JDr 2] Joe Derrane. Return to Inis Mór. Joe Derrane (accordion). |
| ~1995 | 14#2 | [Arc 2] Arcady. Many Happy Returns. Johnny McDonagh (bones, bodhrán, triangle), Nicholas Quemener (guitar, flute, whistle, vocals), Patsy Broderick (piano, keyboards), Conor Keane (accordion), Brendan Larrissey (fiddle), Niamh Parsons (vocals). |
| ~1995 | 1.6#2 | [GL20] various. Green Linnet Records. The Twentieth Anniversary Collection. |
| ~1997 | 8#1 | [NaCnn 1] Na Connerys. Celtic Sessions. Paddy Glackin (fiddle), Kevin Glackin (fiddle), Sean Og Potts (pipes, whistle), John Regan (accordion), John Wynne (flute), Tom McDonagh (bouzouki), Mark Kelly (guitar). |
| 1998 | 13#2 | [JWh] John Whelan. Come to Dance. John Whelan (accordion). |
| ~2000 | 4#2 | [LC 3] Liz Carroll. Lost in the Loop. Liz Carroll (fiddle). |
| ~2000 | 12#2 | [OMBFMO] Oisín Mac Diarmada, Brian Fitzgerald, Micheál Ó Ruanaigh. Traditional Music on Fiddle, Banjo and Harp. Oisín Mac Diarmada (fiddle), Brian Fitzgerald (banjo), Micheál Ó Ruanaigh (harp). |
| 2001 | 3#1 | [PHCB] Public House Ceili Band. Go Figure. Dan Cobb (banjo), Dave Delgado (whistle), Alan Ng (fiddle), Bob Newton (octave mandolin). |
| ~2001 | 6#2 | [HOP] Claire Byrne, Darragh Murphy, Barry Kerr, Patrick Davey. The Humours of Piping. Claire Byrne (pipes), Darragh Murphy (pipes), Barry Kerr (pipes), Patrick Davey (pipes). |
| ~2001 | 16#1 | [FG 6] Frankie Gavin. Fierce Traditional. Frankie Gavin (fiddle, flute). |
| 2003 | 1#2 | [CSmth] Chris Smith with Roger Landes and Randal Bays. Coyotebanjo. Chris Smith (banjo, mandola, mandolin, field organ), Roger Landes (bouzouki), Randal Bays (fiddle). |
| ~2003 | 13#2 | [JCt 4] John Carty. At It Again. John Carty (fiddle). |
| ~2005 | 10#2 | [CTrsh] Ciaran Tourish. Down the Line. Ciaran Tourish (fiddle, whistle). |
| ~2007 | 5#1 | [TAM] Joe Burke, Brian Conway and Felix Dolan. A Tribute to Andy McGann. Joe Burke (accordion), Brian Conway (fiddle), Felix Dolan (piano). |
Bibliography
Here are all transcriptions of this tune under any title whatsoever – considering only the indexed books – listed in chronological order. I have discovered by careful comparison that these are very similar to this tune as played on the recordings listed above.
| As tune #1206 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. |
| As tune #482 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. |
| As tune #58 in [A] Hugh McDermott. Allan's "Irish Fiddler." |
| As tune #184 in [CRE 2] Breandán Breathnach. Ceol Rince na hÉireann 2. |
| On page 35 of [LPUP] Eithne and Brian Vallely. Learn to Play the Uilleann Pipes. |
| As tune #118 in [WC] Pat Mitchell. The Dance Music of Willie Clancy. |
| On page 97 of [Krsn] Miles Krassen. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. New and Revised. |
| As tune #26 in [DM 1] Dave Mallinson. 100 Essential Irish Session Tunes. |
| On page 24 of [M] Phil Rubenzer. Midwestern Irish Session Tunes. 3rd Edition. |
| On page 35 of [M2] Phil Rubenzer. Midwestern Irish Session Tunes. Millennium Edition. |
| As reel #103 in [Cobb] Dan Cobb. Cobb's Music of Ireland. |
If you are considering using the above transcriptions to help you learn this tune, I invite you to check these practical Tips for Learning Irish Traditional Music. See also: So why do you bother indexing books and abc?
Year of the oldest source for this tune, considering the recordings and transcriptions listed above (note that I concentrate on sources after 1900): 1903