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Tune ID#887 (If There Weren't Any Women in the World)

Transcription of first 2 bars of If There Weren't Any Women in the World about these two bars
These two bars were transcribed by me from how this tune was played – the first time through – on the recording CA (details in the Discography below).
Basic musical information on this tune.
Rhythm ?Bars8-bar phrase structureMode ?
Barn dance32AABBD Major
Titles ? given to this tune in the sources listed below (plus notes of mine about this tune):
If There Weren't Any Women in the World / If There Weren't Any Women / If There Were No Women in the World / Where Would the World Be without Women? / Where Would the World Be without Women / If We Hadn't Any Women in the World / Mura mBeadh Mná ar bith sa Domhan / The Three Leaf Shamrock of Glenore / Francie Mooney's German / The Berrefoy / John Brosnan / Hammy Hamiltons Highland (misidentified as Hayes Favourite on Snchrd; 2nd in set If There Wasn't Any Women in the World - Barndances on OTUS2; 3rd in set Germans on CA; as Gan ainm on HamHam; 2nd in set Where Would the World Be without Women on AtR 2; as untitled Highland on HB 2; 3rd in set Unknown on PShvln; 2nd in set If There Weren't any Women in the World on Fdl 1; 1st in set The Haymaker on Yanks 2) (also in G or A)
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Here are all recordings of this tune considering only the indexed recordings. I have discovered by careful listening that these sources are in fact musically the same tune, regardless of the tune titles they use, key changes, retuning, etc.

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Year
Recorded
Track
#Tune?
[Album code] Artist. Title (Link to Album Info page). Performers (instruments).
19385#2
[OTUS2] Oldtime Records. Vol. 2. U.S. Recordings. Traditional Irish Recordings from 1923 to 1947. Paddy Killoran (fiddle), unknown (fiddle, accordion).
19764#2
[RtHaMtD] Round the House and Mind the Dresser. Gene Kelly (accordion).
~19839#3
[CA] Mairéad Ní Mhaonaigh and Frankie Kennedy. Ceol Aduaidh. Mairéad Ní Mhaonaigh (fiddle, vocals), Frankie Kennedy (flute).
~19893#1
[PBnPoc] Máire agus Séamus Ó Beaglaoich. Plancstaí Bhaile na bPoc. Máire ní Beaglaoich (vocals, piano, accordion), Séamus Ó Beaglaoich (vocals, accordion). For this tune: Seamus (accordion).
~19901.2#1
[HamHam] Hammy Hamilton. The Moneymusk. Hammy Hamilton (flute).
20001.8#1
[LaL] Lámh ar Lámh. Many Hands. Antóin Mac Gabhann (fiddle), Áine Mac Gabhann (fiddle), Bernadette Mac Gabhann (fiddle), Caitlín Bríd Mac Gabhann (concertina), Seán Mac Gabhann (accordion).
200011#1
[ACC] Aidan McMahon and Anthony Quigney. A Clare Conscience. Aidan McMahon (fiddle), Anthony Quigney (flute). For this tune: 1st time Aidan (fiddle).
200013#1
[SkHly 3] Skip Healy. Purgatory Chasm. Skip Healy (flute).
~20012#2
[AtR 2] At the Racket. Mirth-Making Heroes. John Carty (fiddle, banjo), Brian McGrath (banjo, piano, keyboards), Seamus O'Donnell (flute, saxophone, vocals), Garry O'Briain (guitar, mandocello, piano), Brid Dooley (vocals).
200214#1
[HB 2] Harry Bradley. As I Carelessly Did Stray. . .. Harry Bradley (flute, whistle). For this tune: (flute).
~200315#3
[PShvln] Peter Shovlin. Beyond the Wee Strand. Peter Shovlin (fiddle).
20045#1
[SGrant] Seamus Grant. Traditional Fiddle Playing from Inishowen. Seamus Grant (fiddle).
~20085#2
[Fdl 1] Ciarán Ó Maonaigh, Aidan O'Donnell. Fidil. Ciarán Ó Maonaigh (fiddle), Aidan O'Donnell (fiddle).
~20083#2
[Snchrd] Dermy Diamond, Tara Diamond, Dáithí Sproule. Seanchairde. Old Friends. Dermy Diamond (fiddle), Tara Diamond aka Tara Bingham (flute), Dáithí Sproule (guitar).
20096#2
[LBCK] Kevin Griffin, Eoin O'Neill, Quentin Cooper. Live at the Burren Centre, Kilfenora. Kevin Griffin (banjo), Eoin O'Neill (bouzouki), Quentin Cooper (mandolin, banjo). For this tune: Kevin (banjo).
20141.11#1
[Yanks 2] The Yanks. Haymaker. Dan Gurney (accordion), Dylan Foley (fiddle, whistle), Sean Earnest (guitar, bouzouki), Isaac Alderson (flute, pipes, tenor saxophone, whistle).
~20148#2
[MMcNmr 3] Mary MacNamara. Note for Note. Mary MacNamara (concertina). For this tune: (Bb/F concertina).
20154#3
[LKPD] Liam Kelly and Philip Duffy. Sets in Stone. Liam Kelly (flute), Philip Duffy (fiddle).

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Bibliography

Here are all transcriptions of this tune considering only the indexed books, listed in chronological order. I have discovered by careful comparison that these are musical matches to this tune as played on the recordings listed above.

Listing of published transcriptions of this tune.
As misc #50 in [MM] Martin Mulvihill. First Collection of Traditional Irish Music.
On page 43 of [SLoP] Paul Deloughery. Sliabh Luachra on Parade. [available]

If you are considering using the above transcriptions to help you learn this tune, I invite you to check these practical Tips for Learning Irish Traditional Music. See also: So why do you bother indexing books and abc?

Year of the oldest source for this tune, considering only the recordings and transcriptions listed above (note that I concentrate on sources after 1900): 1938