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Tune ID#4685 (Further in the Deeper)

Transcription of first 2 bars of Further in the Deeper about these two bars
These two bars were transcribed by me from how this tune was played – the first time through – on the recording JD 5 (details in the Discography below).
Basic musical information on this tune.
Rhythm ?Bars8-bar phrase structureMode ?
March32AABBA Dorian
Titles ? given to this tune in the sources listed below (plus notes of mine about this tune):
Further in the Deeper, The / The Farther in the Deeper (inconsistent 8-bar structure on JD 5, B part used as intro on A PG, where structure is consistently AABB) (compare both parts with 1st part of Drive the Cows Home #7150)
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Discography cd

Here are all recordings of this tune considering only the indexed recordings. I have discovered by careful listening that these sources are in fact musically the same tune, regardless of the tune titles they use, key changes, retuning, etc.

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Year
Recorded		 Track
#Tune?		 [Album code] Artist. Title (Link to Album Info page). Performers (instruments).
~19742#1
[JD 5] John Doherty. The Floating Bow. John Doherty (fiddle).
~20128#2
[A PG] Altan. Gleann Nimhe - The Poison Glen. Mairéad Ní Mhaonaigh (fiddle, vocals), Ciaran Curran (bouzouki, mandolin), Ciaran Tourish (fiddle, vocals), Dáithi Sproule (guitar, vocals), Mark Kelly (guitar, bouzouki, vocals), Dermot Byrne (accordion).

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In the above Discography, this tune is:

Played afterOn Albums
Lancers Jig		A PG

Bibliography

Here are all transcriptions of this tune considering only the indexed books, listed in chronological order. I have discovered by careful comparison that these are musical matches to this tune as played on the recordings listed above.

Listing of published transcriptions of this tune.
On page 181 of [Altan] Martin Tourish. Altan. The Tunes. [available]

If you are considering using the above transcriptions to help you learn this tune, I invite you to check these practical Tips for Learning Irish Traditional Music. See also: So why do you bother indexing books and abc?

Year of the oldest source for this tune, considering only the recordings and transcriptions listed above (note that I concentrate on sources after 1900): 1974
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