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Tune ID#358 (College Groves)

Transcription of first 2 bars of College Groves about these two bars
These two bars were transcribed by me from how this tune was played – the first time through – on the recording MGm (details in the Discography below).
Basic musical information on this tune.
Rhythm ?Bars8-bar phrase structureMode ?
Reel40AABCDD Mixolydian
Titles ? given to this tune in the sources listed below (plus notes of mine about this tune):
College Groves / The College Grove / Garrán an Choláiste / Doirí an Choláiste / The Cottage Groves / Cottage Groves / The New Demesne / The New Domain / Miss Corbett / Miss Corbett's / Miss Corbett's Reel / The Millstone / Millstone / The Milestone / The Connacht Reel / The Connacht / The Old Locks and Quays of Galway / Old Locks and Quays of Galway / The Green Jacket / An Cailín Fionn / Whiskey in the Jar / Whiskey in the Jug (1st in set Drag Her Round the Road on Drv 3 and Drv 4) (various settings of various lengths, but usually 4 distinct parts; also in D Major or in C Mixolydian; the Seamus Ennis setting on SE 3 and AL2 could be considered a distinct tune with its 1st part more like the 1st part of Maude Miller #4026) (compare 1st 2 parts with Green Jacket #7746, compare distantly Colonel Fraser #360)
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Discography cd

Here are all recordings of this tune considering only the indexed recordings. I have discovered by careful listening that these sources are in fact musically the same tune, regardless of the tune titles they use, key changes, retuning, etc.

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Year
Recorded
Track
#Tune?
[Album code] Artist. Title (Link to Album Info page). Performers (instruments).
192616#2
[IFM] Past Masters of Irish Fiddle Music. Jim Morrison (fiddle).
19282.14#1
[PJConlon] Peter J. Conlon. The Genius of Peter Conlon. 78 RPM Recordings from 1917-1929. Peter J. Conlon (melodeon). For this tune: with Walter Lally (banjo).
19286#1
193321#1
[OTPR] Oldtime Records. Vol. 3. Piping Rarities. Liam Walsh (pipes).
~19511.3#1
~195724#2
[POB] Paddy O'Brien. 1922-1991. Paddy O'Brien (accordion).
~195810#1
[KCB 1] The Kilfenora Ceili Band. The Fabulous Kilfenora Ceili Band. P.J. Lynch (fiddle), Gus Tierney (fiddle), Jim McCormack (flute), Gerry Lynch (accordion), P. Mullins, T. Eustace, P. Madigan, Kitty Linnane (piano), G. O'Loughlin (drums).
~19678#1
[PKlly] Patrick Kelly. Patrick Kelly From Cree. Fiddle Music. Patrick Kelly (fiddle).
19701.26#1
[MGm] Michael Gorman. The Sligo Champion. The Fiddle Music of County Sligo. Michael Gorman (fiddle, vocals). For this tune: a nephew of Michael Gorman's named Michael Gorman (fiddle).
~19712.1#1
[NaF 2] Na Filí. Farewell to Connacht. Tomás Ó Canainn (pipes, accordion, vocals), Matt Cranitch (fiddle), Tom Barry (whistle).
~19723#1
[TMacMn 1] Tony MacMahon. Tony MacMahon. Tony MacMahon (accordion).
19736#1
[KB SD] Kevin Burke. Sweeney's Dream. Fiddle Tunes from County Sligo, Ireland. Kevin Burke (fiddle).
~19738#1
[JB 2] Joe Burke with Charlie Lennon. Traditional Music of Ireland. Joe Burke (accordion), with Charlie Lennon (piano).
~19747#1
[SE 3] Séamus Ennis. The Wandering Minstrel. Seamus Ennis (pipes). For this tune: (C# pipes).
~19741.19#1
[MR 10] Micho Russell. Rarities and Old Favorites 1949-1993. Micho Russell (whistle, flute, vocals). For this tune: (Eb whistle).
~197513#2
[PCt] Paddy Carty. Traditional Irish Music. Paddy Carty (flute).
~19752#2
[BC 4] Bobby Casey. Maestro. Bobby Casey (fiddle).
~197712#2
[AM] Andy McGann and Paul Brady. It's A Hard Road to Travel. Andy McGann (fiddle), Paul Brady (guitar).
~19788#2 (0:54)
[KB Cap] Kevin Burke. If the Cap Fits. Kevin Burke (fiddle).
~19796#2
[MOC 1] Martin O'Connor. The Connachtman's Rambles. Martin O'Connor (accordion).
198312#2
[FG 2] Frankie Gavin. Croch Suas É. Up and Away. Frankie Gavin (flute, fiddle, whistle, accordion). For this tune: (fiddles, flute).
19858#1
[TMacMn 2] Tony Mac Mahon. Mac Mahon from Clare. Tony Mac Mahon (accordion). For this tune: with James Kelly (fiddle).
~19967#1
[Drv 3] Dervish. At the End of the Day. Cathy Jordan (vocals, bodhrán, bones), Shane Mc Aleer (fiddle), Liam Kelly (flute, whistle, vocals), Shane Mitchell (accordion), Michael Holmes (bouzouki), Brian McDonagh (mandola, bassola, mandolin, guitar). For this tune: Shane McAleer (fiddle).
~19963#2
[KR] Kevin Rowsome. The Rowsome Tradition. Kevin Rowsome (pipes). For this tune: (D pipes).
19972.3#1
[Drv 4] Dervish. Live in Palma. Cathy Jordan (vocals), Liam Kelly (flute), Shane McAleer (fiddle), Shane Mitchell (accordion), Brian McDonagh (mandola, guitar), Micheal Holmes (bouzouki). For this tune: Shane McAleer (fiddle).
19984#1
[KB IC] Kevin Burke. In Concert. Kevin Burke (fiddle).
20005#3
[MOR 1] Mícheál Ó Raghallaigh. The Nervous Man. Traditional Irish Music on Concertina. Mícheál Ó Raghallaigh (concertina).
~20005#3
[TMacMn 2] Tony Mac Mahon. Mac Mahon from Clare. Tony Mac Mahon (accordion).
~20036#1
[TapRT] The Tap Room Trio. The Tap Room Trio. Harry Bradley (flute, piccolo), Jesse Smith (fiddle), John Blake (guitar, piano, flute). For this tune: Jesse Smith (fiddle).
~20087#2
[Fngl 1] Fingal. Fingal. James Keane (accordion), Randal Bays (fiddle), Dáithí Sproule (guitar, vocals). For this tune: James Keane (accordion).
20114#2
[MDORlgh] MacDara Ó Raghallaigh. Ego Trip. MacDara Ó Raghallaigh (fiddle).

Goes Well with . . .

In the above Discography, this tune is:

Played afterOn Albums
Flax in Bloom
IFM
Fisherman's Island
POB
Jug of Punch
PCt
Toss the Feathers
BC 4
Boys of Ballisodare
AM
Toss the Feathers
KB Cap
Mother's Delight
MOC 1
Cavan Reel
FG 2
Broken Pledge
KR
McDonagh's
MOR 1
Miss Galvin's
TMacMn 2
Bob McQuillen's
Fngl 1
Jenny's Welcome to Charlie
MDORlgh
Played beforeOn Albums
Flogging Reel
PJConlon, WW 2, JB 2, TMacMn 2
Dairy Maid
IFM, KCB 1, MR 10
Launching the Boat
Drv 3, Drv 4
Earl's Chair
NaF 2
Pinch of Snuff
KB Cap
Jenny's Chickens
MOC 1
Farewell to Ireland
FG 2
Maudabawn Chapel
KB IC
Sheehan's
TapRT
Maids of Mitchelstown
Fngl 1

Bibliography

Here are all transcriptions of this tune considering only the indexed books, listed in chronological order. I have discovered by careful comparison that these are musical matches to this tune as played on the recordings listed above.

Listing of published transcriptions of this tune.
As tune #1208 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. [available]
As tune #1209 in [1850] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. [available]
As tune #484 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. [available]
As tune #485 in [1001] Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill. The Dance Music of Ireland. 1001 Gems. [available]
As tune #265 in [CRE 2] Breandán Breathnach. Ceol Rince na hÉireann 2. [available]
On page 56 of [RM] Randy Miller and Jack Perron. Irish Traditional Fiddle Music. [available]
On page 97 of [Krsn] Miles Krassen. O'Neill's Music of Ireland. New and Revised. [available]
On page 71 of [FF] David Brody. The Fiddler's Fakebook. [available]
As tune #42 in [DM 3] Dave Mallinson. 100 Evergreen Irish Session Tunes. [available]
As reel #39 in [Cobb] Dan Cobb. Cobb's Music of Ireland. [available]
As reel #107 in [JKg 3] Josephine Keegan. A Drop in the Ocean. Traditional Irish Tunes Collected by Josephine Keegan. [available]

If you are considering using the above transcriptions to help you learn this tune, I invite you to check these practical Tips for Learning Irish Traditional Music. See also: So why do you bother indexing books and abc?

Year of the oldest source for this tune, considering only the recordings and transcriptions listed above (note that I concentrate on sources after 1900): 1903